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01.16.2005 :: Is this a cooking blog or what??

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Thanks to all of you who joined in on the great debate of American Chop Suey vs. Goulash. All of your comments made me feel loved beyond belief. Or is it that you just love food? I'd like to stay in my happy little delusional euphoria and think it's the love. :)
I learned so many new names for a dish that I've been eating all my life. And I think I wouldn't be out of line saying that fun was had by all.
Here's some of the other names:
Slop, Glop in the Pot, chili mac, slum gullion, hot dish, casserole, meat gravy, spagetti and so many fun others. I will still call it American Chop Suey, but when I cook it, I'll think of all the others. And probably laugh into the pot, further proving to the family that I've lost my mind!
Now, is this the time to mention that my Mother used to make a dish that I now call "shepard's pie"? It was layers of hamburg and onions on the bottom, corn in the middle, and mashed potatoes on top, baked in the oven. She called this "CHINESE DISH". Made no sense to me, even as a kid. I refused to call it that. I always refered to it as shepard's pie, ticking my Mom off. I was a rebel, I tell ya!
Chinese Dish, indeed!

Spelling Bee
I feel as if I am involved in a spelling bee while at home lately. The family has found the game, I Sketch. It is an online version of the game Pictionary. It is all the rage around here. It is played against other people, who take turns drawing a word assigned to them. All the others guess the word. Being an online version, spelling is important to getting the word correct. I'll be sitting here knitting and all of a sudden the spelling bee starts. "Mom, how do you spell Zeppelin. Or Labyrinth." Fun for all. Gets my brain working. But I feel as if I must stand and follow the spelling bee format. You know, "~clear throat~ Zeppelin. Z-E-P-P-E-L-I-N. Zeppelin"
Knitting
Today I start the 2nd Latvian mitten without borders. As well as knit on a little project I picked up and am excited about. Not ready to talk about it yet, though. You'll have to come back to see it.
Heehee!
Mean, aren't I?
In the meantime, Go eat something. And hopefully it has a wacky name!

Posted by Sandy on 01.16.2005 AT 10:00 AM

Comments

Has it occurred to you, Sandy my sweetness, that your family has some sort of unrecognised Asian food issue?
Chop suey? Chinese dish?
Perhaps you should dig deep in your memory for a time when you were denied a won ton or bean sprout?

Posted by: Stephanie on 01.17.2005 AT 02:45 PM

Can I weigh in here? To me goulash (meat cooked with onions) American chopped suey (elbow macaroni with hamburger) and shepards' pie (hamburg, corn, and mashed potatoes) are three completely different things. It's funny how all these different names and ideas developed for (in some cases) similar dishes.

Posted by: Colleen on 01.17.2005 AT 07:31 AM

Well, Aven got in ahead of me and solved your puzzle. I grew up in Montreal where the francophone contingent, as well as some of us anglos, called it Pâté Chinois. To me it has always (and *will* always!) be Shepherd's pie. My mum used to make the most wonderful SP- lots of gravy. What a surprise when, while trying to figure out what to feed a toddler for dinner, she told me how easy it is to make! Who knew?! And being his mother's son, the little guy loved it.
Thanks for the chuckle reading all about the different names for the same dish. Cheers!

Posted by: Sarahfish on 01.16.2005 AT 08:04 PM

Ok, update: Pate Chinois (that should have a circumflex accent on the "a" and an acute accent on the "e") is actually a Quebecois (and New England) name for Shepherd's Pie. It comes from (apparently -- this is taken from a CBC webpage, and may be apocryphal) the fact that Shepherd's Pie was a local dish in a town called "China" in Maine, a region from which many of the French-Canadians now living in Quebec emigrated. So it has nothing to do with actual Chinese cuisine... which certainly would be surprising!

Posted by: Aven on 01.16.2005 AT 02:06 PM

I think that Pate Chinois is just the most charming thing! How cute that she translated it to Chinese Pie!

Posted by: Mary Beth on 01.16.2005 AT 02:02 PM

i live in quebec, but an english, so i call the shepherd's pie, but the french call it pate chinois

Posted by: ruby on 01.16.2005 AT 01:58 PM

Growing up in a French-Canadian area in Maine, my family always used to call it Chinese pie. I never understood why, but Aven's explanation makes sense. We also ate American Chop Suey, just as you described it yesterday. Thanks for the posts about these food names, it makes me laugh!

Posted by: Rachel on 01.16.2005 AT 01:32 PM

thanks for the link to the game. of course, now I'll get nothing done - but at least you'll know where to find me online!

Posted by: Mary on 01.16.2005 AT 12:01 PM

Hey, Sandy! What's COOKIN'?!Shepherd's Pie it is! Oh, too funny. One day my husband was working as Acting Judge in the courthouse where I worked for many years. He said something about Shepherd's Pie, and the court clerks were all incredulous: NORMA makes SHEPHERD'S PIE?! They somehow had this impression that every single meal coming out of my kitchen was gourmet, and they refused to believe that I would make something so pedestrian. (I had them well fooled, didn't I?) They quizzed me the next time I came to work and I confirmed that, yes, I was guilty of making Shepherd's Pie on the odd occasion. Haven't made it for well over a decade now, but I used to. I used to make a vegetarian version, too. Comfort food, comfort food. (Chinese Dish?! Hee!)

Posted by: Norma on 01.16.2005 AT 11:38 AM

Oh, Aven! You have solved a life long puzzle for me! Thank you! My mother is french speaking, so this makes sense! She never explained it, though.
I'll still call it shepard's pie! :)

Posted by: sandy on 01.16.2005 AT 11:12 AM

In French, Shepherd's Pie (which I also know as ground beef (or lamb, hence the shepherds), onions, and gravy, with or without corn (not traditional in England, but yummy), topped with mashed potatoes), is called Pate Chinois (or Chinese Pastry/Pie). I don't know why -- but that must be related to your mom's name for it. (This is one of the joys of living in bilingual Canada -- you can't help knowing the French names for everything you eat or buy!).

Posted by: Aven on 01.16.2005 AT 11:08 AM

Chinese dish? She must have been playing with your head. Week two of low carb eating - I WOULD GIVE MY ELDEST CHILD FOR SHEPARDS PIE!

Posted by: Mary Beth on 01.16.2005 AT 10:03 AM